Talk:Common Sense Revolution

What's with all the content about "cities"?? The over-emphasis on urban issues does not very accurately reflect the prevailing issues with the CSR. Certainly the megacity was an issue at the time, but it probably didn't even crack the top 3. Not sure it deserves its own paragraph, but I'll leave it.

-- well it's one of many issues - it just so happens that it's the most expanded on category - feel free to add additional content regarding other areas of the CSR.

--- It's easy to be the critic - you go out there and do the research... add more content in the other areas. I've noticed as a user you've added nothing to wikipedia - so get off the fence and do some of the work - instead of sitting there criticizing others. Themepark

On the contrary, I am the author of 90% of this article. I wrote it while studying in the UK based on research I did on the topic of Ontario Politics while at the University of Western Ontario studying under Professor Sid Noel. Problem is, it was my first contribution to wikipedia and had not yet created an account. So, I respectfully point out that the "get off the fence and do some of the work" comment is slightly out of line. The reason I removed the lines about municipal affairs is because I don't believe it reflects a NPOV with respect to the CSR. I went to great lengths in this article to represent the issue neutrally as between Conservatives and Liberals, which is difficult since it evokes strong emotions on both side of the fence. The impact of the Common Sense Revolution is highly controversial today, with the province essentially being split about whether they love it or hate it. Adding in content such as "Failings of both the CSR and the Blueprint became obvious in the second term. By 2003 the Toronto merger had failed to deliver any savings whatsoever." are inappropriate because it is in fact no way obvious that such "failings" occured or that the Toronto merger had "failed to deliver any savings whatsoever". I am not trying to destroy this article I am in fact trying to represnt a balanced and NPOV on a topic that is particularly sensitive in my home province. I didn't delete the larger paragraph about municipal affairs because, although I feel it exaggerates the importance of an issue, it is still in fact an issue. However the lines I did delete I believe are misleading and exactly the kind of thing that needs to be closely monitored on wikipedia. I'm sorry I am not a regular contributor to wikipedia, I only contribute on a few topics on which I am knowledgable or have done research. I don't know the protocols for discussion or deltions or whatever, but I do know when objective research is being misrepresented.

In light of the discontent with simply removing the items in question I edited them to remove partisan language and unsupported statements (for example, claiming that the quality of life in Toronto has been reduced is absurd). Perhaps I shouldn't have erased the items in their entirety in the first place, but I rashly suspected that they had been added by partisans who I have noticed frequently highjack wikipedia articles.


--- feel free to edit articles as to remove NPOV - I stand by my arguement of people who have no accounts who come by and alter articles - if your a contributer you should use an account as to add credibility to your changes. fyi - I did not add the comments about CSR has failed to produce savings for Toronto - but I do believe that is a factual statement. Several reports have concluded that changes made within the context of the CSR have not produced the savings promised. Feel free to expand on all areas of the CSR - the various mandates have had a profound effect on the Province, and it's questionable in todays context if they delivered what was promised.

I have deleted the first paragraph of the Retrospect Section. It should be re-written with somewhat less spin, perhaps reflecting reality in the province of Ontario, where Mike Harris is so unpopular that the current Conservative candidate refuses to acknowledge his name, according to recent articles in the local newspapers. --76.68.38.191 00:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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