User talk:Greenman

Hi Greenman. After reviewing what I wrote, I believe it was fairly neutral as I was stating a true fact about the team. Them having four World Cup wins (more than any other nation) would classify them as the greatest rugby nation of all time. I believe you taking it down is a mistake and that what I had wrote is fair and doesn't go against the neutral act.
Please get back to me ASAP. Joshisakov (talk) 07:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
South Africa national rugby union team Joshisakov (talk) 07:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Howsit. Thank you, I am learning how this process works still. I assure you that myself do not have a COI in this matter. Although I have spoken to him (DE KOCK), and aware that he is 75, I am also aware of the entirety of the surroundings regarding his past life, much less his new life or even that he was released recently on parole. I have here in front of me physically:
1. Anemari Jansen - Eugene de Kock - Assassin for the State - Tafelberg Publishers - ISBN 978-0-624-07027-6
2. Jeremy Gordon - Eugene de Kock - A long night's DAMAGE - Contra Press - ISBN 0-620-22198-4
3. Jacques Pauw - In the heart of the whore - Southern Book Publishers - ISBN 1-86812-392-8
First book is the best and three being the worst.
Those are the three physically published books I have in my possession on C10 / DE KOCK.
The TRC Report can be downloaded from here:
https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/report/
De Kock is mentioned in some of the TRC reports, which also contains materials from the TRC video series of 536 videos:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjxBjEglO5y__cA4kIlo2lJE1Bsi8Ysqr
(Personally have watched every video once, at least, some in excess of 20-30 times).
Many other relevant online sources exist, like O'Malleys Foundation and Mandela Organisation, Chris Hani Foundation and all of them of relatively the same information.
The books provide you different perspectives.
The online materials and TRC then another perspective.
Then there are the court cases, to which almost all the records are sealed, which is strange as it is supposed to be public information unless a ruling is made, which, if you try to find those records, are not there. You do however obtain some strings of incormation regarding the proceedings.
Then most interesting enough there are mentions of DEKOCK on Wikileaks:
https://search.wikileaks.org/?q=%22eugene+de+kock%22
Which makes him a significant in the eyes of the intelligence community.
One last thing, it is according to my understanding, common knowledge amongst most people in that I can reasonable accept that a majority of yourselves are aware that the media does not always tell the truth and often when they do tell the truth, only a half of it. Per example, did ANYONE believe WION with their moon landing video material that looks like a 90's SEGA game footage.
20/20 vision regarding the world is only foudn in hindsight. Now that so many years have passed and new information comes to light as an avid reader of the bushwar and collector of memoribilia from this era, and during these sessions learned about DEKOCK from another angle, one that presents a perspective directly from his colleagues who some people considered to be "underneath" the rest of them and wont be called to testify. To be clear and frank, if the Black African male soldiers/operators/policemen that served under the DEKOCK would have been allowed to testify for him, one would have been able to question the narrative at the during 1995.
"I am no racist" Says DE KOCK:
https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/media/1997/9709/s970929e.htm
Of course my immediate thought was how this could be the case, or what exactly does it mean, as it is was understood that the time that DE KOCK is a smart individual with above average intelligence, could mean by that. Well, that is the thing - when you understand what he means, and look at his friends from his early years during MANDATORY service to the state, they were same men that served under him.
I looked for what each of those Black African men said about him under his command and took some time, however I understood that DE KOCK is not a racist because a racist wont sleep next someone he hates and despise, nor try to save his life even when his own life is under threat. That makes no sense to me, because you are either racist or not, or is there a halfway racist in between? Then probably every person in the world must have some form racism because I can think of every nation in the world at least not liking some other nation which is different from them.
De Kock practically slept, ate and showered with his African Black soldiers/operators. That doesnt sound like a racist to me, to be honest and some of the stories also does not speak of "pure black hatred". If you mention De Kock to any former African Black African Koevoet, they immediately get excited and ask about their brother.
What I do know now, is that I can see a witchhunt when I see one, and practically only DE KOCK and WALUSZ were severely jailed after failed promises that they would not be jailed if they go to the TRC. So the last question why, or what, made DE KOCK and WALUSZ so special that they were exempted from the TRC promises of pardon. It got my attention recently. Suidafrikaanse verwer (talk) 11:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman,
I changed the article 4 times now, I added a bunch of independent, reliable sources and it's still an advertisement? Can you say which parts are not neutrally written? There is the history (that's just stating facts), what we offer (that's the core of every company) and the IPO (which again, are facts).
It's not because I'm an employee of the company, that I want to write an advertisement. We're a listed company on the Belgian stockmarket so we should have a Wikipedia page just to explain who we are.
Thanks for sharing the insights so I can get this article online.
Eva Eva Verplaetse (talk) 07:57, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Greenman, please take a look at this draft (which you declined for want of reliable sources. I think you should be vast in knowing independent reliable media news outlets or journals in Nigeria based on your experience so far on the English Wikipedia. More than 20 reliable sources were cited in this draft https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Draft:Adedoyin_Adeleke especially in the "Publications" part. Please make me understand more the reason for decline. Guide me the more. You are more like mentor now. Thank you. Frankincense Diala (talk) 05:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman

Could you please review the article? Draft:Saritha_Kukku I believe that I have provided or cited potential links to the article from a reliable source. I tried to provide as many links as I could. Mustafdesam (talk) 05:30, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Greenman!
Could you please help to understand how can I fix this - "All statements need to be sourced, starting with the date of birth" - Looks like my sources not correct? And how can I sources date of birth?
"Duplication should also be removed" - I got it, this is glitch, very strange!)
Thank you!|
Alona Alona Mashevska (talk) 05:52, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Alona Mashevska:, I can't help you find a source for the date of birth, but then how did you get the date of birth in the first place? If you have a WP:COI, you must state it. Greenman (talk) 07:28, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I got it. Sure, working on it!))
Thank you! Alona Mashevska (talk) 22:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How do i request approval of my article? You have suggested that i should link with the LGBTQ rights in Kenya, but i dont think the two articles will be congruent. Mike-Nairobi (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Greenman, thank you for reviewing my draft. You mentioned that the source for the DOB is missing - this is information I have directly received from the person I wrote the bio about - how should I cite it? Faliyahya (talk) 13:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Faliyahya: see Wikipedia:Verifiability. If there is no accessible and reliable published source, the information should not be included. Greenman (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your quick reply! Faliyahya (talk) 14:00, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't understand why since I have provided plenty of independent source. I have notice some pages with only two or three lines and even without proper source but they are still on Wikipedia, but for Thoeun Theara, there are many sources provided. You can also publish it and leave a note just like you do for many other articles so that other reviewers can help improve it. Mao Piseth 16:59, 5 November 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pisethinfo (talkcontribs)



In response to your 'marketing nonsense' comment on my first ever submission, WP:FAITH and WP:BITE. I am still learning and currently trying to make improvements. Fifi Dee 23 (talk)

can you help me understanding problem with my draft i am having trouble understanding problem with it can you please help me out a bit Shashwat185 (talk) 20:14, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you help me understand what's Wrong with my draft and how m posed to submit my draft VioletKay.in (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman, You recently declined a Wikipedia entry of mine (Draft:Rockcastle County High School) stating that there weren't enough citations, but since Rockcastle County High School is rural, the only major sources that are available are the District website, the School website, NCES, and US News. J.A. (talk) 02:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added more information to my draft. It says review pending but when I was talking to someone on talk it said that a re review wouldn’t be possible. Can you tell me if the draft will be approved and considered Arjun Dugar 2204 (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The wiki draft is Draft:Aditi Dugar Arjun Dugar 2204 (talk) 13:21, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Arjun Dugar 2204 your draft has been Rejected and therefore will not be considered further. You have not shown that Aditi Dugar meets the Wikipedia:Notability (people) threshhold, therefore they cannot have a Wikipedia article at this time. Qcne (talk) 15:36, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review. I removed some of the extra references. But in editing, I produced another error that I can't seem to fix. The first intro phrase of the draft does not show and has an error message. This is how it should begin: "Rosemarie Scolaro Moser is an American neuropsychologist[1]," Can you help? Otherwise, it is ready for another review. Thank you! SportsNeuropsychology100 (talk) 15:37, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman, I am trying to better understand the comments you made when rejecting my draft (Draft:Uri Shraga Gutman). I dont know how to reference an objective source for a date of birth of my subject (a living person) other than uploading their passport or birth-certificate (which are the sources that I have seen), without breaching privacy laws and regulations. If you have some idea for how I can do this otherwise, can you please suggest? Additionally, I have referenced all that I can from online sources. I do have some "hard-copy" references (newspaper articles, for example, from the 1990s and early 2000s) - but I have not found these online, and therefore could not provide a reference to them for the article. Can you suggest a solution for this? Many thanks for your comments, and in advance for your help. Avggtmn (talk) 05:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Offline sources can be used, they are just not preferred, as they are difficult to verify. Please don't upload personal information, such as passport details! If you cannot find independent sources, then the information should rather be removed. Greenman (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman, In many entries about living people, there is a date of birth, which is not referenced. Please note the very similar wikipedia entries for other diplomats/ambassadors (see example: Rafael Harpaz - Wikipedia). Can you suggest an alternative? For example, it is my understanding that LinkedIN is not considered a reliable source. What is, then? Avggtmn (talk) 06:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Avggtmn: that article is atrociously sourced, and much of the content is vulnerable to being removed. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Linkedin is considered a poor source in most contexts as it's self-published, but for a date of birth for an authenticated subject, Linkedin could be usable. See WP:LINKEDIN.Greenman (talk) 21:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman,
Can you please explain why this is considered conflict of interest? 2607:FEA8:86A0:800:E9BF:998D:C2F2:2F69 (talk) 22:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman,
Can you please clarify why this entry is considered a conflict of interest? It is still listed as "pending" so not sure what the status is. Any clarification about next steps would be appreciated. Thank you! Erezze (talk) 11:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot say why it is COI, that is for the declarer to do. Since the writer mentions having seen their passport/birth-certificate, there is almost certainly a close relationship. Greenman (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am the writer and there is absolutely no mention of her birth-certificate, passport or country of origin/residence. So I'm not sure what you're referring to. The entry is still pending but you recommended reading the COI document -- it is still unclear as to why. 24.44.146.59 (talk) 16:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About one month ago I invested a lot of time to add substantial content, references, sources etc. to this article: https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Draft_talk:Alternative_Alternatives

Alternative Alternatives are a concept that is increasingly becoming more relevant.

I hope that you or someone who is well versed in Finance and Investment is taking a look and can approve the article or give feedback!

Thank you! Francoise99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francoise99x (talkcontribs) 07:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You rejected a page I created https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Draft:Bruce_Ryan_(production_designer)
You wrote that "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." This is just plain wrong! Perhaps you were looking at an earlier draft which had sources Wikipedia considers unreliable. I removed all such sources from the version you claim to have reviewed. The article cites only reliable sources. Please retract your declination. Thank you. Sylvan1971 (talk) 02:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I still see entire sections that are unsourced.Greenman (talk) 12:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect, the sections that are unsourced (birthplace, family background, high school and college, are customarily unsourced in Wikipedia. See, for example https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Donald_Trump or https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Joe_Biden etc. You may be applying non-standard standards.
The subject's career is entirely sourced with reliable sources. If you have specific objections, please provide. Thank you. Sylvan1971 (talk) 16:00, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My friend, you have declined to publish my page of living person. Your reason was that there were too few citations but I see many published pages that have much fewer citations than mine.
For example: Zandaakhüügiin Enkhbold, Norovyn Altankhuyag, Mendsaikhany Enkhsaikhan and Radnaasümbereliin Gonchigdorj. I also used citations from international organizations and currently operational organizations if you need to verify.
Can you please take a look and try to publish my page next time? Thank you Wiseone019 14:23, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Draft:Leopoldo_Balayon_III
Great feedback @Greenman The "accomplishments" section was edited to your recommendations and the references were properly added. Great job @Greenman Days Gone Smart (talk) 05:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You rejected a page I created https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Draft:Segun_Nabi Realdbeat (talk) 01:44, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
== You rejected a page I created ==
Hello Admin,
Draft: Musa Muhammed Olayinka
You wrote that "Sources are poor, and some appear to be about an entirely different person. " This is just plain wrong! Perhaps you were looking at an earlier draft which had sources Wikipedia considers unreliable. I removed all such sources from the version you claim to have reviewed. The article cites only reliable sources. Please retract your declination.
Thank you. Ishola Ishola0 (talk) 21:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Greenman, I just want to publish a wikipedia page for this company, as it's already existing in Arabic language.
https://ar.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AA%D9%8A_%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%B1
Can you please help? Mahmoudnessim912 (talk) 05:46, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Page rejection
To User:Greenman ,You rejected a page I edited, Draft:Tektite Industries You wrote that "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." Perhaps you were looking at an earlier draft which had sources Wikipedia considers unreliable. I removed all such sources from the version you claim to have reviewed. The article cites only reliable sources from government, news media, references to other Wikipedia pages. Please retract your declination. Thank you. TEKTITE1 (talk) 15:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TEKTITE1: Please read the guidelines for references, the page is far from suitably sourced. I note you have also been blocked for promotional editing. Greenman (talk) 07:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You declined my article saying the subject does not qualify for the Wikipedia article. There is already a German Wikipedia version of him so I guess the English one should qualify too. I have added now seven new references (plus the four previous ones still there) and wrote more information in his bio. I have seen many many other pages with less references and far less written information in the article, and being published. Syvä-äksy (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Syvä-äksy: I don't know which page you mean (it's better to comment on your Draft where the next reviewer will see it), but note that the English Wikipedia has its own notability guidelines (linked from the decline notice), and that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a basis for approving a submission. Greenman (talk) 10:38, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I mean this Draft:Otso Liimatta. Syvä-äksy (talk) 11:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Greenman! I'm not new to Wikipedia, I've read A LOT of articles, but I wanted to make my own article. So I decided to make mines about Shadow the Hedgehog's first voice actor, David Humphrey. But I know I don't have a lot of sources but can you please tell me how to improve? Thanks! Draft:David Humphrey (voice actor)
-Unknown Person 2603:7000:C53D:B386:E006:3E59:FE13:4925 (talk) 11:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Greenman, Adding links and all are legit and have a similarity to other articles. More references will submit soon. JackW2016 (talk) 18:10, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

== You left a note on a page I created ==
Hello Greeman,
Draft:Gray_Leadbetter
You wrote that "All statements need to be sourced, starting with the date of birth." I have updated the article to only cite fact verified statements backed by sources. The article cites reliable sources. Would you be willing to give it another look and help me push this through to final publication?
Thank you. Manderson619 14:31, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

== Note about birthday date (Mohamed Elshahat) ==My source for his birthday is him. I declared COI on my page since I personally know him. Should I only leave the year since it appears in most of his bios online?. Thanks! NourhanAbdelfattah (talk) 14:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @NourhanAbdelfattah: yes, personal word-of-mouth is insufficient to use as a source, so stick with what the sources say. Greenman (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I edited the DOB and only left the year. NourhanAbdelfattah (talk) 17:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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