Template talk:R to section

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to subtopic My gut feeling is that there is little substantive difference between Template:R from subtopic and Template:R to section. What is unfortunate is the merger of concepts underlying Template:R from subtopic and Template:R with possibilities]] as it is a truism that almost all tolerated titles and named concepts have the possibility of becoming an article though there might be a very small probability of this taking place User:Ceyockey. User talk:Ceyockey|talk to me. 02:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd never heard of Template:R from subtopic(edit talk links history) before this, but I agree. There's maybe a gnats eyelash of difference between the two. In general, I've been tagging the section linked to with {{Redirectstohere}} as well, so there's an back notation (no link) suggesting changing the title is a bad idea! You might think about working the aliased name into the redirects documentation page. Cheers! // FrankB 03:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Observation: As explained at Help:Anchors, changing the title of a linked section doesn't affect anything as long as you simply include a "div" tag of the original title. Maybe Template:Redirectstohere should mention that? IMHO, it should always be done when renaming a section anyway. --DocumentN (talk) 03:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Template:Anchor preserves section anchors, even when the section heading changes. It also obviates the need to use HTML markup or code comments to preserve redirect link integrity. Template:Redirectstohere was deleted in July 2008.Template:R with possibilities is a qualitative assessment, not speculation. It implies that the topic should be developed further. Sometimes a disambiguation page is warranted. Obviously, not all redirects have development potential (e.g., name variations).

As for subtopics and sections, the answer is codified in the redirect category hierarchy: Category:Redirects to related topics :Category:Redirects from subtopics Category:Redirects to sections

A redirect template adds a redirect to a category. Just as in other categories, only use the ones that are the most specific. Placing a template in a specific category implies its membership in the more general categories. —[[User:Ringbang|Ringbang User talk:18:00, 20 January 2014 (UTC) ←

What's the current consensus on whether redirects to sections are presumed to be subtopics? That is, does {{r to section}} make {{r from subtopic}} superfluous? For example, I made this edit knowing full well someone would probably disagree.

The discussion above doesn't seem entirely relevant now that {{redirectstohere}} no longer exists. --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha User talk:02:42, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Sounds like a job for a bot ==

Since you an always tell from syntax if a redirect is to a section or not, isn't the job of marking redirects as such best left to a WP:BOT? The bot could also categorize redirect to sections that are borken, i.e. the section got renamed w/o changing the redirect or including a div to keep the old section name valid, which honestly, I've not seen anyone use. Pcap ping 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've wondered about this, too. Maybe categorising redirects isn't important enough to devote the computational resources? It would be nice to know. Ringbang (talk) 18:03, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SELECT page_title
FROM page
JOIN redirect ON rd_from=page_id
LEFT JOIN categorylinks
       ON rd_from=cl_from AND cl_to="Redirects_to_sections"
WHERE page_namespace=0
AND   rd_fragment!=""
AND cl_from IS NULL;

That's 390,160 uncategorized redirect, but we can access it problematically. — Dispenser 17:22, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]