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Welcome to the Scouting WikiProject on the English Wikipedia. We are a group dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to Scouting and Guiding. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them on our discussion page. If you would like to join us, please add your name to the list of project members!

Goals

  • To create the foremost reliable and accurate free-content encyclopedia of Scouting and Guiding in the English language.
  • To improve coverage of Scouting and Guiding by creating, expanding, and maintaining articles that describe all of its aspects.
  • To provide guidelines and recommendations for such articles, and to serve as the central point of discussion for issues related to Scouting and Guiding in Wikipedia.

Contents

Scope

Scouting and Guiding are worldwide youth movements composed of many organizations, all of whom have the common aim of developing young people physically, spiritually and mentally. This aim is achieved through non-formal education with an emphasis on practical activities in the outdoors using the Scout method.

Most regional Scouting and Guiding organizations are members of one of the international umbrella associations. There are also many independent Scouting organizations as well as a number of organizations that do not term themselves as Scouts or Guides, but use the Scouting methods; all of these fall within the scope of this project. There are several Scouting groups within the project scope and many exist within overlapping geopolitical areas.

Organizations who veer from the Scout method by becoming politicized or militarized are outside the project scope.

How you can help

If you would like to participate, add yourself to the members section of this page.

You can help out by editing a Scouting or Guiding-related article, improving our current collaboration of the week (at right), helping to complete a task on our to-do list, or contributing to the discussion on one of our related talk pages. If you would like some suggestions, just ask on the talk page.

If you find a Scouting or Guiding-related article without our template, please place our template {{WikiProject Scouting}} at the top of the talk page. You can also add this to the talk page of images, categories, and templates.

If you find a Scouting or Guiding-related article without our infobox or portal tag, please place our portal tag, [[Portal:Scouting | The Scouting Portal ]], in the "See also" section of the article. This will advertise our portal and make it easy to navigate to.

If you find a Scouting or Guiding-related stub article that has not yet been marked as a stub, add {{Scout-stub}} to the bottom of the article. It will automatically be included in the Scouting stubs category, where you can find plenty of stub articles to expand if you are itching to do something.

Put a project-related userbox on your user page, especially the project member userbox.

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Coordinators

The project coordinators are generally responsible for maintaining all of the procedural and administrative aspects of the project, and serve as the designated points-of-contact for procedural issues. They are not, however, endowed with any special executive powers, nor with any authority over article content or editor conduct.

  • Lead coordinator: evrik
  • Article improvement: Bduke - this does not mean that I am going to improve articles all on my own, but I am here to advise editors, after many years of editing WP, if needed, on improving articles. Just ask me on my talk page.
  • Project mediation: OPEN
  • Image tagging: OPEN
  • Newsletter editor: OPEN


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Announcements

  1. Barnstars to User:Headbomb and User:JLaTondre for their work on the Portal:Scouting/Recognized content page
  2. Barnstars to User:BrownHairedGirl and User:GoingBatty for their work on Scouting pages

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COPE (Boy Scouts of America)

COPE (Boy Scouts of America) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I boldly re-directed to Boy Scouts of America, because the article is entirely primary sourced, and some contents I trimmed out were unsourced and added by WP:SPA in these diffs. The re-direct was challenged by an editor, so I am nominating for re-direct to Boy Scouts of America I believe the program itself does not have significant reliable secondary source coverage independent of Boy Scounts of America. Graywalls (talk) 08:35, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik:, Consensus is not a vote. You casted a vote "keep" that doesn't provide any justification. Please detail how this article meets WP:GNG. Wikipedia article should be based primarily on published, reliable, secondary sources, per WP:PSTS. This article is almost entirely written from sources related to the program or its program sponsor (BSA). Given it's almost written based on program or BSA affiliated sources, there's really nothing to merge. Once re-directed, a re-direct section can always be changed and contents added to the target page as reliable sources are found. Graywalls (talk) 10:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Sourcing is WP:PRIMARY sourced to COPE documents. All the sources are like that. It is currently non-notable. The redirect should have remained in place instead of being reverted. scope_creepTalk 11:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I searched and could not find any reliable independent secondary sources covering this topic. Left guide (talk) 12:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • KeepThis is a program with tens of thousands of certified instructors and millions of participants. Saying that it is "primary sourced" like saying that anything is written about by a human about humans is "primary sourced". And even so, information that meets even that overly restrictive standard certainly exists. And much of the "boring" informative enclyclopedic information for an program organization is only covered in depth and authoritatively by the organization that organizes/runs it. Contrary to the implications of the nomination, there is no wiki-requirement against this. North8000 (talk) 15:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't say it shouldn't be covered briefly in another article but without meeting WP:GNG, it doesn't qualify for a stand alone article unless there's applicable WP:SNG. Article should be mostly based on secondary sources. There's an explanatory essay WP:Based upon endorsed within that. Given just how much of the article is dependent primary sourced, there's not much to merge. So, re-direct was a reasonable approach. "Lots of people use it" doesn't automatically make it pass GNG. Multiple editors have gone out and tried to find significant coverage in secondary sources and they're coming back with none. Graywalls (talk) 17:21, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The article fails to show the programmes notability, uses mainly primary sources and describes a minor and very BSA-specific aspect of ropes courses in an educational setting. Some of its contents could maybe be merged to Ropes course if secondary sources can be found. --jergen (talk) 09:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Products. Graywalls (talk) 00:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and then redirect to Boy_Scouts_of_America#Training. Per the discussion above, and per the few secondary sources that have been added to the article, COPE (aka C.O.P.E.) appears to be a well-known and well-loved program run by the Boy Scouts of America since the 1970s. However, at the moment, it is only mentioned in passing in a photo caption within the main Boy Scouts of America article. It would be great if a few sentences about COPE could be added there, as there isn't a lot of depth in the secondary sources found to date about the project itself. (That said, COPE is quite challenging to search for given its frequency as a word, so please do ping me if additional sources are found, or if the merge has been completed.) Cielquiparle (talk) 06:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Common abbreviations and acronyms can usually be navigated in search by entering the full name which in this case is "Challenging Outdoor Personal Experience". Graywalls (talk) 15:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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