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What should I do to address the submission errors
Wm.Allison1954 (talk) 03:10, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Wm.Allison1954: Get rid of the chatbot, find some actual sources, and summarise them. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 03:27, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed, and thank you. Wm.Allison1954 (talk) 03:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Wm.Allison1954: You're welcome, and apologies for the bluntness. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 03:31, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I need to learn how to actually do this. My main sources of information about this company were sourced by the owner, Google information, and people who have business with this company, so I'm limited in sources. How else can I source materials that seem limited, if I may ask Wm.Allison1954 (talk) 03:36, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Wm.Allison1954 If the sources don't exist, an article isn't possible. However, sources don't have to be online, you can use hard copy books or newspapers: as long as the source is published in some way. Does that help? qcne (talk) 07:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! I wanted to submit a translation for the article (i.e., Rising Sonority Tendency) rather than a completely new page, so I did not do any research or try to find reliable sources. The corresponding German article (DE: Tendenz zur steigenden Silbensonorität) was published at some point; are the standards for reliable sources different on the German wikipedia? I think I remember reading that one could cite an untranslated page in the references section; is that possible here? Thanks. Erlkönigin3 (talk) 05:29, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I just realized I violated WP:WHATABOUTX. Sorry about that. My other question still stands, though--is it possible to cite an original article as a reference in the translation of that same article? Is that applicable here? Erlkönigin3 (talk) 05:38, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello, @Erlkönigin3. The answer is No. A Wikipedia article, in any language, is not a reliable source, and may almost never be cited. You may cite the sources from the original article, if they are reliable; but since de:Tendenz zur steigenden Silbensonorität only acknowledges the single source that you have included in your translation - and doesn't have specific citations to it - then that doesn't really help.
- I'm afraid that "I wanted to submit a translation ... rather than a completely new page" works only when the original article meets Wikipedia's current criteria for verifiability and notability - which many existinng articles don't in other Wikipedias (and even in English Wikipedia). In any other case, I recommend treating it the same as creating an article. ColinFine (talk) 13:13, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, should I delete all the IMDB references? User972364 (talk) 08:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Not necessarily all of them, @User972364.
- iMDB is not a reliable publication, so it should not be cited as a source. An external link to the iMDB entry corresponding to the subject of an article is acceptable. but not a whole load of associated links.
- But the links will not help establish that the series is notable, and nor will the three existing citations, which are not independent - two are from the Emmy awards, and the Spanish one does not appear to have much independent content, as it quotes the producer.
- You need to find sources which meet WP:42. ColinFine (talk) 13:20, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wondering which (if any) of the current sources establish notability. Have read notable organisation guidelines. Independent and substantive articles from BBC, Sunday Times, VICE, and Washington Post have been dedicated to the organisation. Is it a requirement to have a non-journalistic source? 125.237.246.71 (talk) 09:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Using the whole url in the header breaks the formatting that provides a link, I've fixed this for you. It's usually not necessary to use the whole url(which can lock readers into a version of Wikipedia they may not prefer, mobile or desktop); outside of a header, just place the title in double brackets.(like [[Draft:Lonely Girls Club]]). 331dot (talk) 09:26, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- If you are associated with this organization, that must be disclosed, see WP:COI. That's easier to do with an account, but even if you choose not to create one, you must disclose.
- Social media is not an acceptable source(Instagram and LinkedIn). Government websites that just establish that the organization exists are considered primary sources and do not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 09:31, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! No COI except I was a customer in winter 2023? Hopefully not COI!
- If I remove the social media sources, do you think it’s likely that the published mainstream media sources would be sufficient? There’s 5-6 articles that I thought met the “reliable, independent, and containing significant coverage of the subject” test. 125.237.246.71 (talk) 09:40, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you, no, being a customer is not a COI.
- The other coverage largly seems routine(WP:ROTM). What are your three best sources? 331dot (talk) 09:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmmm good question. Probably:
- https://www.thetimes.com/uk/article/inside-the-group-tackling-the-uks-friendship-recession-bfpjbm6lf
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/04/12/lonely-girls-women-club-friendship/
- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-64963937 125.237.246.71 (talk) 09:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The first source is probably the best; the other two seem to be based on interviews with the founder of the club, so those aren't as independent. If you had a couple more sources like the first, and the draft mostly summarized those, that could work. 331dot (talk) 11:17, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you so much! I’ll workshop and give it another shot. 125.237.246.71 (talk) 11:25, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draft submission: Alberto Guardabasso
Hello,
I would like to kindly submit this draft for review:
Title: Alberto Guardabasso
Draft location: User:Enzo Leone61/sandbox
This is a biographical article about Alberto Guardabasso, an Italian fashion journalist who has contributed to Style Magazine (Corriere della Sera), V Magazine, and VMAN Magazine. He was also selected as an expert jury member by RAI for the Sanremo Music Festival 2025, and has been accredited as a journalist at Cannes Film Festival 2024.
The draft includes independent references from Italian news sources and is supported by freely licensed images.
I declare a conflict of interest, as I am connected to the subject. I have tried to maintain a neutral and encyclopedic tone in accordance with Wikipedia policies.
Thank you for your time and feedback.
- Please write without an AI. 331dot (talk) 10:07, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello Enzo Leone61. I have added a header to your sandbox which will allow you to submit it for review. Before you do so, I suggest you read WP:REFB, and convert your "references" to inline citations, which show what statement is being verified from which source.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.--ColinFine (talk) 13:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I need help. SportsLover1967 (talk) 13:46, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @SportsLover1967. What help do you need? Have you read WP:NTEAM? qcne (talk) 14:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- With getting Drafts accepted. Can you plz be my assistant? SportsLover1967 (talk) 14:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @SportsLover1967 Have you read our criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (sports)? This outlines if sports clubs/teams can have an article on Wikipedia. You have not demonstrated in your draft that this club meets that criteria. Read the guidance to understand how to prove that criteria. qcne (talk) 14:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Have read it. But I need en.wikipedia.org to be having Every single Venezuelan football club. SportsLover1967 (talk) 14:44, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately that isn't going to happen: not every single Venezuelan football club meets our criteria for inclusion. qcne (talk) 14:53, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Just transfer the info from es.wikipedia.org and translate and copy and paste it. SportsLover1967 (talk) 15:21, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @SportsLover1967 The es. Wikipedia and the en. Wikipedia are two different projects with different standards. What is acceptable on the es. one is not accepted on the en. one. So, you cannot just export all the articles from es. to en., they have to comply with the en. policies. qcne (talk) 15:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- But they played in the second division. SportsLover1967 (talk) 16:00, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- What about all teams that played in Liga FUTVE 2 in its entire history? SportsLover1967 (talk) 16:00, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @VictoratBluestarAI. Wikipedia was having some server issues about 30 minutes ago. Try again (but make sure to back up your work first since there is no auto-save feature). qcne (talk) 14:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I’ve removed the existing sources and added new high-quality ones that follow Wikipedia's guidelines. Please review our Wikipedia page. Morekiranwiki (talk) 14:08, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You disclosed a COI; if you work for this platform, the Terms of Use require disclosure, see WP:PAID. If accepted, the draft would not be "our Wikipedia page", but a Wikipedia article about your platform. See WP:OWN.
- As it was rejected, the first step is to appeal to the last reviewer directly and ask them to reconsider. 331dot (talk) 14:21, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Morekiranwiki I remember this draft - you or a colleague asked for assistance on wikipedia-en-help live chat. None of your new sources are any use. I recommend the draft stay rejected. It is clearly not a company that meets our Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) criteria. qcne (talk) 14:36, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I have re-written and researched more citations relevant to the work of Adegoke Steve Colson for the English Wikipedia page. Before I resubmit, is it possible for an editor to give me feedback? I had to rewrite to ensure it is more encyclopedic and that have more citations. Thanks in advance if someon might be able to have a look Ackee123 (talk) 14:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ackee123 We don't do pre-review reviews here; the best way to get feedback is to resubmit the draft. 331dot (talk) 15:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks very much for taking the time to reply, I just was uncertain. Ackee123 (talk) 20:09, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Should I remove some information he states about himself in interviews as well? I feel like some of the stuff he says can only be said from him and him alone, like how he got introduced to vocaloid and his work process for working on vocaloid as he is known throughout the community for his realistic tuning of Hatsune Miku (unless that information is unnecessary, then I'll remove it, and if the claim calling his tuning realistic or god-like needs more sources, I can also do that).
For the notability, I went for the sections of having his albums chart in a national music chart and having two or more albums released under a major record label. For the national music charts, I took directly from both the Oricon and Billboard Japan sites, as he charted in both of those charts, and for having two albums released from a major label, I took directly from the Sony Music Japan and Warner Music Japan sites. Would I need more sources to prove he has charted and had albums released under two major labels, as I feel like I don't considering these are taken directly from the official sites. FurretSuperFan (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @FurretSuperFan: With the exception of matters no reasonable person could hope to dispute, anything a subject says in any forum or format can't help for eligibility (connexion to subject) or for biographical claims. The sources you provide for charting are acceptable; the ones for releases under a major label would likely get challenged (look for reviews of the albums that note the label it was released under). The
claim calling his tuning realistic or god-like
must be attributed. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:09, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- From what I can find, there are no reviews over the album, is there any other ways I can prove it was released under those labels? FurretSuperFan (talk) 16:21, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can not find any reviews stating that The Greatest Idol and Virtual Popstar were released under Sony Music Japan and Warner Music Japan, respectively. Are there any other sources or ways I can use to prove that the albums were released under those labels? FurretSuperFan (talk) 17:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, for his realistic tuning claim, I changed to "He's praised among the Vocaloid community for his realistic tuning of the Vocaloid Hatsune Miku," and cited it, is that good enough or would I need to reword it to something else? FurretSuperFan (talk) 17:33, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @FurretSuperFan please do not start a new discussion/question. I have moved your response here. S0091 (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why was my submission declined?
Jmras63 (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @Jmras63. It was not declined. You wrote this draft with ChatGPT and because ChatGPT is not very good, it automatically added a declined notice to the top of the draft's code. That would be funny and ironic, if we weren't seeing AI-generated drafts overwhelm Wikipedia. Do you have any more questions? qcne (talk) 21:18, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good why these now? Eeh Mamcada (talk) 21:44, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Mamcada Because you have not presented nor verified yourself as passing the relevant acceptance criteria. Perhaps you need your own website. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 21:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- So if i have my own website i will pass with this? Mamcada (talk) 21:57, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Mamcada Await notability and someone else writing about you. Wikipedia does not enhance your reputation. It is not social media. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 22:04, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you do it for me Mamcada (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello, @Mamcada. It is very unlikely that anybody here will be interested in writing an article about you.
- This is partly because all the regulars here know that the very first, indispensible, activity in successfully creating a Wikipedia article is to find several reliable independent sources that cover the subject in some depth (see WP:42) and that is often the hardest part of writing an article. They also know that if several such sources cannot be found, there is no point in trying to draft an article, as it will not be accepted.
- Another reason why it is unlikely that anybody here will want to write such an article is that when people come here wanting an article about themselves, their purpose is usually promotion. Wikipedia is absolutely uninterested in furthering anybody's career or public presence.
- If you wish to spend the time and effort looking for suitable sources about yourself, and checking that each one of them meets the criteria for reliability, independence, and substantial coverage (see WP:42), and post citations to those sources here, it is possible (no more than that) that somebody will be interested in working with you. But if you do not post such sources, I predict that nobody here will want to work on this.
- A final warning: there are predatory scammers who contact people who have tried to make articles about themselves, falsely claiming that they can create an article about you. Do not give them your money! (see WP:SCAM). ColinFine (talk) 13:58, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Please do it for me Mamcada (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Mamcada no. qcne (talk) 14:41, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]